Desert Island Tricks
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Desert Island Tricks
Wayne Goodman
Our latest episode features Wayne Goodman, the final member of the Alakazam team to record a DIT, who brings heartwarming stories and unparalleled passion for his craft. One of the most touching moments shared is about a groom who treasured a coin trick from his childhood, using it as a symbol during significant life events, and eventually passing it to his bride. This emotional tale sets the stage for a rich discussion on the emotional impact of magic and how even the simplest tricks can create lasting memories.
Join us as Wayne reveals his ultimate list of magic tricks he'd take to a desert island, featuring the versatile sponge balls and the profound impact they've had, including a memorable performance for a blind child. Wayne’s dedication to inclusivity and emotional resonance in magic is truly inspiring. We delve into his specialised routines and explore indispensable props like Rocky Raccoon and the Magician's Insurance Card 2, highlighting how these tools elevate his performances for all audiences, making magic more than just entertainment—it's a source of joy and positivity.
You'll also hear about the evolution of Wayne’s routines and the practical aspects of performing magic. From the utility of tricks that reset instantly to the nostalgic stories of props like the Split Die Box, this episode is packed with personal anecdotes and professional insights. Wayne's reflections on the deeper meanings behind simple tricks and his commitment to bringing happiness through magic make this an episode you won't want to miss. Whether you’re a magic enthusiast or just love a good story, Wayne Goodman’s magical journey offers something truly special.
Wayne's Desert Island Tricks:
- Sponge Balls
- Thumb Tip
- Rocky Racoon
- Split Die Box
- Professors Nightmare
- Magicians Insurance Card 2
- Hot Shot
- Magic Coin
Book. Maxim’s Primer
Item. Sharpie
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I did a wedding a few years ago for a couple. The groom got up during his speech and said when I was five I met Wayne. He did a magic show for my birthday and he made a coin disappear. And then he kept the coin and then he would kiss the coin for luck. And then he said I've only ever kissed a coin twice in the last two, three years, six months ago, when he asked his wife to marry him and he goes. I kissed the coin this morning and he goes. I kissed the coin this morning and everyone was like ah. And then he reached into his pocket and brought the coin out and said until we have children I don't need the coin because I've got mel. So I'm going to give it to her. And he gave her the coin.
Speaker 1:There wasn't a dry eye in the house. I was getting my back slapped by every single person, because it's such a beautiful story and it really brought home to me that you know to some people what we do is more than just a silly little trick. This kid kept this coin. It meant a lot to him. He kept the coin, he treasured it, it was his thing. He's now going to pass it on to his children. And so for me doing a throwaway two-minute trick where I make a talk coin disappear and slip it to the parents, turned into this massive part of his life.
Speaker 2:Hello and welcome to another episode of Desert Island Tricks. Another guest is about to be cast away on our Alakazam island and he is a part of the Alakazam team. He's actually the last remaining member who we haven't recorded with. So today's guest is Wayne Goodman. Now, wayne is an all-round entertainer. You would have seen him in lots of different ways, maybe on the lives or at different events some lectures, dealer Dems, and most recently he was at the Blackpool Magic Convention with his own stand, and he had an array of incredible different effects. He's someone who, every time you see him, he'll have something else to show you, which shows that he doesn't get out much. So, ladies and gentlemen, we do have mr wayne goodman.
Speaker 2:Hello, wayne, good to finally have you on good, great to finally have you here do you know what you say.
Speaker 1:I don't get out a lot, but you know when the lockdown happened, that was like paradise for me. I was just in. This is no different. I can survive.
Speaker 2:How did you find putting your list together?
Speaker 1:uh, very difficult, very, very difficult. I've got a couple of questions I need to ask you, uh, nothing major uh, but we'll get some when I get some. I just want to clarify a couple of points. I didn't have to clarify, um, but yeah, no, I think I've got. I think I've got, uh, a good list, um, and I might make a couple of small changes while I'm doing it. So I've got a list there, but I might have to change. I might throw in two and then go okay, I'm gonna get rid of that one and keep that one. So, yeah, there's.
Speaker 1:It depends how I feel at the time, because some of them it's really difficult. It's really difficult to go yeah, this is the trick. You know, this is the only version of this trick I can now perform. It's not, it's not an easy thing when it's easy to think about it, but when you've got to actually do it, you go yeah, I do love that really so much, but actually I don't want to do that. That other one, and which one do I want to do without more?
Speaker 2:you know, it's difficult, very difficult well, you are allowed as many honorable mentions as you want as well oh, okay, that's good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I can throw in. I've got a couple for that then great.
Speaker 2:So let's get onto the format. If this is the first time you've listened to one of these, we are about to send Wayne to his own desert island. When he's there, he's allowed to take eight tricks, one book and one non-magic item that he uses for magic, particulars like who's there? Is there an audience? Is there a stage? All of that good stuff, we do not mind. It's all within Wayne's very crazy imagination. Not mind, it's all within wayne's very crazy imagination, and so we don't know where it's going to go. It's basically the ultimate list of tricks that wayne could not live without and, with that being said, we're gonna jump on, I presume, a unicycle or something when it comes to wayne, and we're gonna go to the island. So, wayne, what's in your first position?
Speaker 1:So for me this one was actually, probably, of all the tricks I've got here, it's probably the easiest one for me, with the second position coming in very close behind it. I know one of the rules is I can't say a deck of cards because I can perform a thousand tricks with it. So I've got two decks of cards in my thing. I'm going to come back to them later but for me, the one thing that I can't really live without and I mean I've always got one in my hand now I've always got them in my pocket I've got a set in my bag. Um, for me it would have to be a set of sponge balls. I, I love the sponge balls. I think some of the things I do with them my own things as well as classical routines um is some of the strongest magic I do. It happens in their hands. And I want to just digress very quickly into a very quick story. That happened last week when I was at a family pub festival and I was doing a family show mainly children's show, but a family show and as I was waiting for the lady to come out to show me where I was officially going to set up, this lady saw my T-shirt. It said Magic Wayne on it. And she said, oh, we've got Magic Wayne. But I was quite away from home so nobody knew me there.
Speaker 1:But this little boy, who was about 11, got very excited and I went over and I said, oh, what's your name? And he went, charlie. And I said I've got a Charlie at home. Charlie, at home, mine's a girl, charlie. And I said, uh, do you like magic? Do you want to see a trick?
Speaker 1:And the mum said I'm really sorry, he's blind, he can't see anything. And I said well, first of all, don't ever apologize and secondly, just because he's blind doesn't mean he can't experience the magic. And I gave him a sponge ball and he felt it in his hand and then, while he was looking at it, I said I'm going to push it into your hand. I I want you to close your hand around it. And I managed to do the move. And then, when he opened his hand, he now had two balls in his hand and he got so excited and he couldn't believe that somehow I'd magicked the second sponge ball into his hand.
Speaker 1:And his mum was really she got quite emotional. She said they've had magicians before who tend to just ignore him, and so for me, the sponge balls signify proper magic that you can do to anybody, regardless of whether they're blind, because they can feel them, contextualize them. I do it with scn children and adults. Uh, it's been, it's been in my set for hundreds of years. So for me, the sponge balls has to go into spot number one is there a particular routine that you would do with them?
Speaker 1:um, I have, I. So if I've got to know it down to one routine, I think I would just do what the very basic routine that I teach on the amazing magic range sponge ball set, so you go from one ball to four. Um, if I was able to do more than that or to give a special mention, um, I have something that I do that I'm going to be doing unlimited. I'm not going to talk about now. Um, it's one of the strongest things I do when I'm working with families, um, and, and it's very, very magical and very, very special, uh, and very, very cool as well. Um, so, maybe that one. And then I do, like my, my shadow vanish that I do with coins and sponge balls, and that's a very magical vanish, um, and I do that all the time.
Speaker 1:So I suppose, if I had to, nail it down it needs to be the shadow or the the basic routine, because they're the ones that are full of fun, very entertaining, very magical, very cool and and leaves a lasting impression with the spectator.
Speaker 2:So either one of those, really it's a great one to use, like, like you just said, for either sight impaired or blind people. I think that's a great idea.
Speaker 1:Also with SEN children. I work a lot with SEN schools in my area. So for those who may be in another country or don't know what SEN is, it's special educational needs. I know you know that because you've worked in it as well and I've worked with autistic children. I've worked with dyspraxic children For another time. I can tell you I was actually attributed with realizing that dyspraxia was on the autism spectrum when I worked with a dyspraxic boy in the 90s.
Speaker 1:So I spent my whole life really working alongside with SEN children and I find that, especially with children with autism on that spectrum, they like texture and touch, especially if they're quite severe cases, and I think sponge balls are very soft, but they're also malleable and they've got some texture to them so they can play with them, squeeze them, squash them up, fill them and make themselves comfortable, and then I can just make them vanish and it's very magical for them. You know, it's not like a coin which is hard and cold. It's not like a coin which is hard and cold. It's not like, um, uh, some magic prop that they're not going to recognize, that they might be fearful of a sponge ball. It looks like a clown's nose first of all. Um, it's a funny thing to have and, and yeah, so it doesn't matter how old they are, or and this goes into adults as well it doesn't matter how old they are or what their condition is. I've never, I've never had somebody get worried about the sponge balls at all, and they like it, they feel it, they squish it and they can feel the texture and it comforts them. They like it.
Speaker 1:I've given away so many sponge balls to people because I've gone. Oh, they really don't want to give it back, they can keep it. It's fine. I've got 200 in the box. So, yeah, that that I think that one was the easiest one for me. Don't go straight into spot number one.
Speaker 2:Great. So what would be in your second position?
Speaker 1:So coming in very and this one as well very, very easy. But I think this one would just come in slightly behind and it's something that I've used all my magical career. It's a thumbtip I'll never forget. I was about when I was aged between 12 and 15, 16, I was in the Sea Cadets. My dad was ex-Navy and he wanted his four boys to go into the Navy and I think he realised it wasn't going to happen with me. My oldest brother did and then none of my other brothers did. But I went away with the Navy quite often on ships and to bases and stuff. And I'll never forget being on HMS Cromer.
Speaker 1:I was doing our ship that was affiliated to our unit and I went on there and I worked with two guys Smudge and Shiner were their names and, yeah, shiner, his name was James Wright, so Shiner Wright, he was Shiner, and the other guy's name was Smith, so he was called Smudge, and I used to do tricks on the ship. They used to love it. I was always welcome on board. And then they said about this other guy who had a thumbtip and was using it to get free drinks in the pub by putting a cigarette into his hand, and so I he showed it to me and I could never believe that he would fool anybody with it. And then he fooled me about four times with it, doing different things, and it really showed me how strong and powerful it was and I couldn't wait to get my own one.
Speaker 1:And since then I mean during the height of my career in Spain, when I was working over there doing five, six shows a night I would use this method twice in my show. I would use this method twice in my show. It would have two outings in my show, which is quite a bold, and a large percentage of my show given over to repeating a method. But yeah, it was great. So I would have it either with a silk or for a bill switch. Probably the bill switch because that's what I use it mainly for. Now, I always want to challenge, do a full 45 minute show with just that, but I uh, yeah, which I did. But yeah, that would go into my, into my second spot. That's, uh, an essential part of my, my kit good shout.
Speaker 2:It's one that I think we've had a lot and we're going to have a lot. I do think it's one of the only things that we have in our industry crosses over into every genre, so it can be used for billets, it can be used for bill changes, it can be used to make something vanish, it can be used in manipulation acts. Matt Mello even has a really interesting use for it with. He's got a trick called I think it's called invisible object or something like that, and it uses it in a completely different way. So it really is something in magic that you can use it in kid shows.
Speaker 1:You can use it in close-up stage. Yeah, I think it is a very versatile and with there's variations as well, like writers, that you can use for mentalism. It's essentially the same prop, but with an additional bit um, I remember the very first keybender. Um used one, um, uh, and, and you know there's there's lots of uh. Yeah, it's got so many uses, but again, it's always in my pocket, it's always in my bag. I've got hundreds of them. I've got them in every single case, including my kid showcases you never know. And you can make up stuff with it. I've done. You know I need to do something. Oh, I can do something with that thing. Give me that torn napkin, stick it in. It's gone. You know it's such a great little additional prop. It doesn surprise me that it's been. It's been mentioned, you know before, because it's one of those things that, yeah, I can't, I can't be without it.
Speaker 2:That would definitely be in in the second spot great choice, and that leads us on to your third item. So what's in your third spot?
Speaker 1:so I'm going to mix things up a little bit now and I'm going to kind of go in a different direction with it now. Uh, for me, the For me, the number three spot has to be taken up by my best friend, who's been by my side since I was 13 years old. I've had multiples of these and my mum's still got my first one, which is very worn and very battered, and he's been all around the world with me and that's, of course, rocky Raccoon. I love Rocky. I've got five of them here in the house, including a fox version that I got from Mike Wallace when he had his stand in Yarmouth, which he gave to my daughter actually, which now I've kind of stolen from her which is called Foxy. So I've got four Rockies and a Foxy I've actually even got apparently it's the only one in the world I've got a very small baby, one that was made as a prototype and not wanted, so I was given it many years ago, and I've got baby Rocky in my case as well.
Speaker 1:So if I'm doing a kid show again at this pub thing, the last few kids to come over, just at the end of my kid's show, I get all the kids in a line. They all walk up one at a time. They stroke rocky, they hug him. While they're hugging him, they turn their parents have a picture of them holding rocky and then when I take him back I tickle him on the nose with his tail and then they run off to go and sit down for the food. And it's always a couple of little ones at the end or shy ones at the end, and I tend to drop rocky and I bring out baby rocky and they're never they're never worried about meeting him. Um, and he's really cute and really small. So, yeah, rocky, rocky goes, rocky rockin goes into uh, goes into second, into third spot. For me, I can't. I can't do a show without rocky. I've got the zigzag rockies. Um, I want to get that one where you stick them in the box and it's got the x-ray machine. You open it up. It's just a wire which the kids will think is funny but won't realise that that is actually what an X-ray of Rocky would look like A swirled up like spring wire in the middle. It just looks cool to connect the boxes. But actually, yeah, that's actually what he would look like if you X-rayed him. Yeah, rocky, number three definitely. But yeah, rocky, number three, definitely.
Speaker 1:I remember when I first got it and I told him he cost me the first one. I mean they cost like 180 quid now and my first one cost me 35 quid. And I showed it to my mate and he went mate, you've been seen off, you've been done there. Mate, 35 quid for a teddy bear and it looked awful when I did it. It looked awful, it didn't look real, didn't look good. And then a friend of mine who does a bit of work with puppets he said I know what your problem is you don't believe he's real. And if you don't believe he's real, why should the audience, why should they invest their disbelief in it if you don't believe it? And it changed everything. And, like I say, he's been all around the world with me, every single ship I worked on all the years in spain. Rocky raccoon was right there and an integral part of my uh, of my act. So I love him, I can't be without him.
Speaker 2:He's definitely in the back great choice and one that I'm surprised we haven't. I don't believe we've had it before, but it's such a classic prop I'm surprised that we haven't had it. My question for you is how do you use it? I do.
Speaker 1:So obviously I do a lot of the classic routine that David Williamson made famous. I have a few extra bits with it as well. It's one of those things I'd have to. It's hard to explain what, how it works, but for me, rocky, rocky, very cheeky, he comes out. A friend of mine made like a hat, but it was made. It was like a yarn, not yarn. And they made this hat, this black hat, woolen hat, and Rocky fits perfectly inside it and I can put it on my head. So I tend to bring the hat out.
Speaker 1:The children say magic hat at the beginning. I bring it out and I can put it on my head. So I tend to bring the hat out. The children say magic hat at the beginning. I bring it out and show it and I have him going face into the hat and I took his tail in and I get around. So we're gonna wake up Rocky. When I shake it.
Speaker 1:Once you wake up, rocky, and they do doesn't work. The first time, when I shake it again, his tail pops out and I got all. That means he's awake and you see some of the parents looking at you like right, what's he got in the hat? Because they're expecting you to bring out some glove, puppet or some marionette type thing. You go, I've got and I call him a puppet pet, and I found this has stopped the children going. It's not real, it's not real. So I call it a puppet pet and the ones that understand puppets then go oh, it's a puppy, see, there's a puppet. And the ones who don't understand it hear the word pet and think he's real. So I go to puppet pet and I shake the hat and his tail comes out and then when I bring him out he runs up my body, he jumps, he eats out my hand and then if I've got a couple of kids in the front who I know won't get upset, I I hurtle him at the kids in the front row and they all brick it and then I tell him it's, it's his way of saying hello. And then I go across and I I feed. You know, they all hold out their hand and they feed, uh, from the hand. And then I got to one of the dads I've been picking on this show and I turn it around to make it look like he's pooping in his hand, which the kids think is very, very funny. Um, and then uh, um, yeah, then I do the disco dancer.
Speaker 1:I do a thing in my kids show where I'm constantly picking on one parent. So all the way through the show I'm getting that parent involved and just humiliating them in a lovely way. They all love it, but it is constant. Every single trick. They get some part of involvement involved in it.
Speaker 1:And when it comes to Rocky, I do the moonwalk thing and the disco dancer I like that more, more, more. And he does a moonwalk. And then I just hold him by the head and shake his tail and it looks like he's wiggling his hips and I say, look, he's doing the floss but he hasn't got any arms. And I say to the kids who here can floss and a few hands go up. So, and I said to the kids who here can floss and a few hands go up, I said everyone stand up flossing, three, two, one go. And they all start trying to do what they think is the floss, very funny.
Speaker 1:And I say you look amazing, you look brilliant, but do you want to see? And I point to myself and I go do you want to see a professional doing the floss? And they all go, yeah, and I make that grown-up then stand up and do the floss as well, which is hilarious. And then Rocky comes back and then they all make a nice line, like I say, and they'll give him a cuddle and a feed him cuddle and then tickle on the nose and tail and then they all head off. I don't do a big finish to my show where I get a big round of applause. I can't stand that. You know, it's not about me, it's about the birthday child. So I send them off to the parents and then, if any parents stick around, they give me a clap and that's good enough for me. But yeah, rocky literally ends the show and he's just brilliant, he's just a brilliant prop and I couldn't even think to do a kid's show without him being the end of it.
Speaker 2:Great choice. And that brings us to your halfway point. So what's in your fourth position?
Speaker 1:So I've got two tricks here and I'm going to choose one of them. I'm going to choose one. So the first one is an old well, they're both old Supreme props and I'm sad to say that you can't really get them anymore. They still do come up for sale, sometimes second hand, and I try and grab them, if they do, because I'm always after spares. The first one is called whizzy dizzy milk and it's a beautiful wooden box that you pour milk into, you turn it over, pour milk in it, keep turning it over, keep pouring in milk. Then you bring out a glass, it vanishes and it reappears back in the box again. And I bought it for some of Fade that I was doing. I always wanted it. It was an expensive prop, but I bought it and it's been in my act ever since. I've adapted it and changed it quite a lot to make my own routine. But yeah, whizzy Dizzy Milk is amazing and I was going to have that in the fourth position.
Speaker 1:But I'm going to give that honorable mention because for number four, I'm going to name the generic type of trick this is and then I'm going to whip it down to the one that I use. Um, but it's the die box, which for me works great with adults, with kids, I use it in my. So I've got the one we sell at alakazam with the um, the one that comes apart, split one. I think it think it's by Mr Magic. It's a beautiful prop. You take the dice, you put it into the box. They can hear it moving around inside. You keep opening up the wrong door and it's not there anymore. The one that I use in my kid shows, and one that I've used again for about 35 years now, is Supreme's man and the Moon, which is essentially a die box, but instead of being a dice it's a disc with a moon with a face on it, and it goes backwards and forwards. It disappears eventually and reappears back in front of the first box and it pops up and down. You don't see it until you do, and it's great and that's the end of my kid show. Really, I've finished my kid show with that.
Speaker 1:And then go into Rocky Raccoon and it's so brilliant. The kids, they're screaming, they're so angry because they can't. I'm not seeing it, I'm not angry, they're frustrated because I'm not seeing it. And they can see it, um, and my favorite bit is when I take the. The first time I put it behind the cloud. Uh, because the two doors have got like clouds and I literally say, boom, he's gone. And I tilt it and it rolls down and makes this really audible clunk as it hits the bottom of the box. And then I open up the first door. Look, he's gone and they just they do not waste any time in telling me the other one then I'm tilting it and I'm opening up the other one and I've got a lovely line that I use when the kids go.
Speaker 1:You keep tilting it and I point to my left elbow and I go no, I've banged my elbow on the way in.
Speaker 1:I've got to keep moving it, otherwise it really hurts, which I haven't. I haven't done that all the way through the last hour. I've not once mentioned my elbow or done anything with my elbow. And then I'll go oh yeah, my elbow's really sore because I've banged it and they're all screaming at me and it's, it's, it's an organized chaos, it's. It's very much structured. My show is structured to build up to that point. But I maintain control so that they're not going to hurt themselves or get too excited or run off whatever. They're all just completely invested in what I'm doing so. The coloring book, the linking loops, all these other trips that I've done throughout my show have built up to this moment where they're just losing their minds but it's controlled in a way that, yeah, they're not going to do anything silly and then it all works out in the end. So, yeah, I think, out of if I had to pick one, one trip to go into the number four spot, it'd be man the moon.
Speaker 2:It's just beautiful and there's so many different versions of the die box that we don't think about. I mean, I remember when I was younger there was I mean, this is obsolete now obviously because time's moved on, but they used to have a cd version which did very, very well.
Speaker 2:I have that in my loft yeah, but of course, well, cds no one's gonna know what those are now, um, and yesterday, actually at the time of recording this, harry showed me one with a close-up version with a coin. Oh yes, I love it as well. I think it's great brilliant.
Speaker 1:It's so beautiful, like little tiny pocket version. Yeah, it's amazing. Well, I've got two of the supreme ones. I've got man, the moon and I've got exactly the same prop, exactly the same thing, but it's a brick wall and it's humpty, dumpty, and that's part of my journey through wonderland show, which is my under five show. Um and again, it's just, it's just brilliant. The kids love it and they can relate to it and, yeah, it's such a great trick and and again, very magical, very magical it's one of the ones that harbors a response without you needing to do a lot.
Speaker 2:So the whole when you see it sliding over and you hear it. What was interesting was when harry posted the one yesterday. In the close-up version there is a purposeful slit in the middle, um, which I believe the cd version used to have as well so you can see it going across so they can see it going across.
Speaker 2:And then when you look at the comments to that video, I think that the third one in is a legitimate response to that. We can see it going over. They. They just don't quite connect always with you know. That's part of it yeah, yeah, beautiful which just shows how yeah, how well it's constructed. It does what it needs to do well there's one.
Speaker 1:There's plenty of tricks out there that advertise themselves as being comedy magic and then and then you look at it and you go, yeah, no, that's really not. You know that's yeah, maybe you can add a bit of comedy or it would suit your style. But I wouldn't class that as comedy magic. And in some circles, especially with my friends who I talk to quite a lot, we often talk about oh, there's a new comedy magic trick. We look at it and go, yeah, I don't know why they've recorded that, because it's not funny or it's not great. You know it's not a comedy magic trick and in some of them you have to really put a lot of work in to try and make it funny. And then you've got man on the Moon or the Diebox and it's effortless, it just gets lost. It just it is.
Speaker 1:If someone said to me what is the best comedy magic trick, it would be. It would be that because it's just, it's simple to follow. You do next to nothing. You know it does it all itself and they just the audience. They run the trick themselves. You know the trick lasts as long as the kids keep shouting at you or the people keep laughing. You know this trick literally controls itself, and when they're starting to click onto what's going on, that's when you move on to the next stage of it, and it's just a beautiful, beautiful effect.
Speaker 2:Great choice. And that brings us over your halfway point, to position number five. So what do you have in the fifth position?
Speaker 1:Unequal, equal ropes, nice and simple. I've always loved the rope tricks. I do a number of different rope tricks in my set. I do the awakening. I do ring on rope. I do a number of different rope tricks in my set. I do the awakening. I do ring on rope. I do uh cut restored rope. I do walking knot. I have lots of different rope tricks.
Speaker 1:I can go to um and I love them all. I've got a nice optical one where you show two bits the same size and they become one but long and one short, uh, optically, which is beautiful, um, but professor's nightmare for me is just a classic of magic. Uh, and it's something that I just love performing and I can do it in my kids show, I can do it in my stage show, um, uh. It's one of those tricks I often do in my family cabaret show towards the beginning of the show because it enables me to get a couple of kids up and if I'm not going to be getting a lot of kids up in the show, they come up at this point and they get their moment. They're not part of the trick necessarily, they're helping and they go and sit down and I've used the kids, so I've got them up and now they can go and sit down and now I can move on to worrying about the adults or not, not worrying about the adults and ignoring the kids, but not worrying about the kids. Nobody will say, oh, we didn't get the kids up in the show. They've been involved, they've been part of it.
Speaker 1:But, yeah, I love the Professor's Nightmare. I think it's an amazing trick, very visual, very magical, very clever, completely fooling, and it's one of those ones that you know again, you're not really doing that much. You can put all your effort into the presentation and you've got yourself a killer trick that people are going to love, and it doesn't matter if they're little kids or they're granny and granddad, they're going to like the trick. It's very simple to watch and enjoy and know what's happening, uh, without having a clue as to how it's done. So, and if you want to learn my professor's nightmare or my handling of it, it is on unlimited um and you can definitely go and check that out yeah, it's a superb trick.
Speaker 2:Professor's nightmare is always going to be a classic of magic. Um, and I mean I've seen it done on the streets of london, at magician's corner in covent garden, I've seen it done at close-up shows, I've seen it done on stage. It really is a an anytime anywhere routine that packs in the smallest of places and plays massive yeah, 100%, 100% and fits in your pocket and you know um, yeah, it's so, it's so versatile.
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Speaker 2:Great choice. And that brings us on to number six. What's in your sixth position?
Speaker 1:So the next. I've got two here and I'm going to choose one of them. It's funny, actually, because Henry Ferris posted about one of these earlier on on Instagram and tagged me in it. So this is quite vain, because they're both mine, but I'm a little bit torn here. So first of all, one is Sam the Bell Hog, which is my version of Sound the Bell Hog, which I'm releasing very, very soon. This isn't a plug, but I might as well take advantage of it. So Sound the Bell Hog, which is my version of Sound the Bell Hog.
Speaker 1:I've been doing it for nearly 25 years now. In fact, no longer than 25, nearly 30 years now. In 1995, I think, I first had my first deck made and it's just a beautiful um storyteller deck. That is just. I love it. So, in fact, once I finish filming this today, I'm going to be filming the instructions for it. I'm hopefully going to have that out next couple of months.
Speaker 1:Um, but I'm also torn between that one and my insurance card magician's insurance card and I think I'm going to fall on the side of the insurance card. In fact, I'm going to go magician's insurance card, two no-tames bonus, because that's the one that I use more than the other one. There's two of them and if you go to alakazam to the website and you search up magician's insurance card two, you can see the video of it. It's a great fun routine. But the reason why I think I'm coming down on the side of this one at the moment is because this is one that fits in my wallet and I wanted one of the tricks on here to be something that fits in my wallet. Um, I do need a deck of cards with it as well, although sometimes I do just use a quiver case etc. But let's throw a pack of cards with that as well. So that's obviously that cards are just for that trick.
Speaker 1:But yeah, the magician's insurance card, too, for me is just a beautiful, versatile, very funny again. All the comedy is built into it. It does all the work for me. Uh, and I've got to give Peter a big thank you because he came up with one of the gags for me. He gave me one of the gags. Um, it's got great gags, it's got great magic, great reveals. So, yeah, magician's insurance card to buy wayne goodman so the magician's insurance policy.
Speaker 2:For those who don't know the routine, the idea is that you would have a card selected. You show that you have this magician's insurance policy. The trick goes wrong. You don't get their card. You say you know what? Let me get this insurance policy out. The trick has gone wrong. When they read through this insurance policy, it then reveals the actual selection that they chose in various different ways.
Speaker 1:There used to be a big bit of paper that went in your like it would fit in your inside jacket pocket. It was a big prop. It would open up and open up, and open up. It was beautiful, it was great. Obviously, it was a big influence for this.
Speaker 1:My one is just a credit card-sized card. It's made of plastic, it's basically a credit card, and it goes in my wallet and then you bring it out bit by bit and it reveals. It's funny because I actually I tend to use this now more when it happens every gig, somebody will go. Do you ever have a trick go wrong? And I used to say, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know it's how you deal with it, that you know, try and blow it off. But now I go no, no, never ever had a trick go wrong, never happened, never happened. Look, I'll show you a trick, guaranteed it'll work.
Speaker 1:And then I go into a trick and it doesn't work and it gets a really big laugh because I've just been so bold and brazen and those who see me perform I don't do this in an arrogant way, it is done in a comedic way and I'm kind of playing it off and then I go and then it goes wrong and I bring out the credit card and the way credit card two, uh, insurance card two, is designed is it's designed to come out of the wallet bit by bit, and the refills happen, and then you turn it around for the two cags on the back, um, and again, it's just a really nice routine. It's a really nice trick that that it's got comedy, it's got magic, uh, but it fits the wallet and when I was putting it together I wanted stuff that I can grow in my pockets, but I wanted at least one of them to fit in my wallet and just be, you know, permanent. So is that?
Speaker 2:and, in fairness, everything on your list so far are the um die box can literally fit in a small close-up case. You've got a sponge balls thumb tip, uh, the rocky raccoon will squish down. It's not equal, unequal rope. And now you know something that you have in your wallet. So it shows that you're ready to do an entire show's worth of magic at the drop of a hat without really much on you yeah, when I, when I worked on the ships and when I worked in Spain, I would have to zoom between one show and another.
Speaker 1:So my show box, which was a 12 inch record box that opened up half the lid, opened up. Everything had to fit inside there and had to pretty likely unequal equal ropes. There had to be an instant reset. I couldn't be faffing around because I've got five shows to do this evening so it's got to be bummer. And with the exception of my final trick hotshot I would set that beforehand or the gimmicks I had five of them made up. Everything had to reset instantly, Otherwise I can't do it because I haven't got time to do it between between shows. So things like bill switch, things like unequal equal ropes, they've got to be able to just be dropped in the bag and I can just reach in and grab them and carry on with them. You know straight away, which is why a lot of my stuff is like that.
Speaker 2:Great choice. And that brings us on to the tail end of your eight tricks with number seven. So what's in your seventh position?
Speaker 1:It's getting hard now it getting really, really hard. Uh, I've got two choices here. Again, I'm going to whip it down to one. Um, first one, it would be hot shot, which is my gun trick. Um, which is a stage item. It's a 15 minute routine. It's crazy. It's very, very funny. Uh, and it's been the closer of my act for for 35 years now.
Speaker 1:Uh, I'm getting ready to release this as a product because I'm retiring it out of my show. I'm doing less and less cabaret shows now and uh, yes, I'm going to retire this and open it up to the community to have it. It's a great trick. It's really fun. Uh, and I love it, and keep an eye open because I will be posting up some trailers. You'll see a bit of the routine. If you've seen me perform, you've seen me do this at conventions, etc. You'll know this is. This is just a bonkers 15 minutes of comedy and stupidity that ends with a nice trick at the end of it. Um, so I'm torn between that and something that isn't mine. I did have ring andope in there as well, because I've done Ring and Rope for years as well, since I was 12. And I love Ring and Rope. My routine's a bit of a cross between David Williamson's Ring and Rope and Francis Tabaret's Rope routine, and this predates things like fiber optics. This was the original routine that these guys guys did, and I kind of like, did a blend with a few of my own bits in there as well. So I love the ring in the way, but for me it'd either be hot shot or it would be nut waltz by Mario Joni, and if you've not seen nut waltz, it's a beautiful piece of theatrical magic.
Speaker 1:You have a paper, bit of paper. The way I do it, I get a bit of paper and I make it into a tube in front of the audience. Put a bit of paper. The way I do it, I get a bit of paper and I make it into a tube in front of the audience. Put a bit of sellotape on it and I make it into a tube. You have a glass and in the glass you have three walnuts. You take them out, you bash them together and then, one at a time, the walnuts disappear. You place the paper tube over the glass, you pick up one of the walnuts, you make it disappear and then you lift up the paper and inside the glass is a walnut and you repeat that three times. It's a really beautiful piece of magic.
Speaker 1:I've done it many times. I did it on my lives during lockdown. I do it, uh, in my, my parlor shows. It's a very clever, beautiful, elegant piece of magic that really when I'm performing, I it. It shows that I've got a little bit of skill.
Speaker 1:I can show off with this one without being too arrogant or brazen about it. I can. I can say I'm gonna sing a bit clever for you now and I and I go into it and it's a bit for me. It's a bit like the living in rape. Actually it it hasn't got that many gags built into it.
Speaker 1:It's a serious piece of magic. People like that. And it's a bit of a contrast for the rest of the show. So before I go into Hotshot or something a bit crazy, I will do Nut Waltz and it just kind of brings them back down again like a palette cleaner, cleanser and they can see, wow, this guy actually has got some skills. And I don't think they think that.
Speaker 1:But you know, it just shows that there's a different side to what I'm doing as well. It's not just a crazy idiot. You know, this is somebody who's actually got some proper skills and can do some proper magic. It's a bit like when you watch charlie fry and one minute he's uh juggling with knives and all that kind of craziness. Next minute he's doing the most awesome sleight of hand with billion balls. So you know, it is sort of like it's a nice contrast of night and day. And, yeah, I think nut walks is a beautiful uh alakazam said it as well it's a beautiful, beautiful little trick. Uh, the gimmick's great and and uh, the whole thing just flows and it does again, it does it all for you, so you can really concentrate on the presentation, the performance of it.
Speaker 1:If I had to choose, I think it would have to be hot Shot. Um, it's never let me down, it's never. It's been my companion again for for over 30 years. It's such a beautiful trick, uh, so I'm so proud of and I'm, you know, I'm very excited about putting it to market. But, yeah, and I will miss it as well, but I'm keeping a couple of sets here for myself.
Speaker 1:Well, the tagline for the trick is shooting a spectator has never been so much fun. Uh, I get, I get an audience member up, one audience member. Um, I've been very lucky, with the exception of maybe three times or four times I've picked the wrong spectator. I always get a good spectator and when you see the trailer for it, the guy I got up on this one. I'm very particular and I normally don't pick people when they go oh oh, can you pick my mate for that pic, because it's like they're going to be awful. I don't want to risk it, but I filmed this one was filmed shyly with Craig Petty and Craig went please pick this guy. And he'd never seen the gun trick. And he went please pick this guy. I went, okay, and I got him and he was amazing. He and I got him and he was amazing, he was just the perfect guy for it. So I get him off the stage.
Speaker 1:He signs a card, card gets let in jumbo card goes back into the pack and then we put on a play, a robbery. He's a thief, I'm a policeman, and then I fire a gun that no one knows about at him while he's running off stage. I shoot him. The whole audience jumps. It's a beautiful moment, uh. And then, when you go through the cards, there's one card his signed card has a hole blown through the card. Um, not cut, not torn, but physically blown. It's got all the crispy bits on it and you can wipe it off. Uh, and it's blown through the card and they get to keep the card.
Speaker 1:So when I lived in spain, I would have people saying to me we came and saw you for the last three years and you finally picked my dad for it, or you finally picked me for it. I've been wanting one of these cards for three years, etc. It became a bit of a collector's thing. People wanted the card. I've had emails and facebook messages from people um years. After I saw them, they found me on facebook and sent me a picture in their living room. The card with the hole in it isn't a frame in their living room. Um, you know, it's become a major major thing. Um, so, yeah, that would be. That would be number. Was that number seven, number seven?
Speaker 2:excellent choice. Yep sounds excellent. It sounds like a really good fun. Little bit of theater actually sounds really fun.
Speaker 1:I'm hoping to I've advertised it that I'm releasing on july 17th, um, it's going to be a very expensive prop. It's going to be a. It's a proper. What you're getting is the kit you're getting with. It is amazing. I'm astounded by how beautiful it looks. Um, but I will be posting up some trailers for it. So, yeah, you can check it out it's great, great choice.
Speaker 2:And that brings us on to your last item. So what's in your last position?
Speaker 1:so last position, really, um, was another one that I would have put in number one or number two, to be fair, um. But my last position is my magic coin, and I used to do this with a metallic coin. I now have my own little casino chips made up. I do that and it's a trick that I came up with as a bit of a gag, really just to get the kids away from me. Once I'm trying to pack up, I'll say I'll do this for you, but then you've got to leave me alone to pack up, et cetera.
Speaker 1:I have a coin disappear. I sit with a child, one child, and if there's a few kids out I'll pick the youngest one and I show them my magic coin. I've got a lovely little coin wallet I open up with lots of different colored ones. They can choose a coin. The coin vanishes and it appears under their pillow the following morning in their bed. Wherever they're sleeping that night, it will appear on their pillow in the morning. Obviously recruited the parents to help with this, but it's one of the strongest things I do and to this day I've got hundreds of photos of kids holding up coins, hundreds of emails from parents saying that their child fully believes in magic. Now they were fully invested in it. I introduced my daughter to a girl and they became best friends and the first time they met I did it on Octavia's brother and sister and then the mum. Later on that evening she sent me a video of them running into the house, running straight up. They didn't know that Sophia, the oldest sister, who was um nearly 20, had gone to the house first, set it all up for me. The kids ran into the house uh, this time it was a card in the recording on me, but they run straight to the bed with the camera cameras on and they lift up the pillow and there's the card with his handwriting on it under the pillow in their bedroom, even though I don't know where they live. Um, and I've gone the opposite direction. Um, yeah, it was just. It's just amazing and my favorite thing I think we've spoken about this before my favorite ever story of this was I did a wedding a few years ago for a couple and the groom got up during speech and said when I was five, I met Wayne, he did a magic show for my birthday, um, and he made a coin disappear and then he, he kept the coin and then he would kiss the coin for luck.
Speaker 1:So he'd do his GCSEs, his A-levels he kissed the coin. He passed them all. Do his driving lessons, he'd do his degree. Kiss the coin every time, he passed them. And then he said I've only ever kissed a coin twice in the last two, three years, six months ago, when he asked his wife to marry him and she said yes and he goes. I kissed the coin this morning and everyone was like ah. And then he reached into his pocket and brought the coin out and said until we have children I don't need the coin because I've got mel. So I'm going to give it to her. And he gave her the coin.
Speaker 1:There wasn't a dry eye in the house. I was getting my back slapped by every single person because it's such a beautiful story and it really brought home to me the essence that you know, to some people what we do is more than just a silly little trick. You know, some people take it away and it's really serious. It means a lot to them. And this kid kept this coin. It meant a lot to him. He kept the coin, he treasured it, it was his thing. He's now going to pass it on to his children kept the coin. He, he treasured it, it was his thing. He's now going to pass it on to his children.
Speaker 1:Um, and in some ways I genuinely believe the way he told the story that he credited him kissing that coin for luck. I never told him to kiss the coin, but he just took it on himself to kiss the coin. But he, he credited kissing the coin with passing his exams. This, and that's not a small thing, that's a major part of his life in the fact that every time he had an exam he would kiss the coin to bring him luck, to get him through. That. It was his lucky coin. And so for me, doing a throwaway two-minute trick where I make a taut coin disappear and slip it to the parents, turned into this massive part of his life.
Speaker 1:And you know, I think sometimes we dismiss ourselves, the power of what we do, um, and and yeah, I've got, I've got. Um, we've all got loads of stories about people we've met. And you know the little boy who I did the sponge ball trick. He was blind. That was a special moment for him. You know, something that he'll remember um, uh, and we forget that. We forget that. We forget that we can have that kind of impact. But it's down to us, it's our attitude, and we've got to go right. I can use these powers for good. I'm not Spider-Man, but we can use what we do for good and it brings a little joy, it brings a little happiness, so be it. We've got these gifts, let's use them. Getting a bit preachy now, aren't I?
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's great. It sounds like a really nice routine. Actually. It sounds really really nice the idea that the magic continues way after the event. I imagine it's really really magical for a young person, but even older people.
Speaker 1:There is another little tiny thing here I just want to add onto this. My granddad was a real joker, like a proper joker, and he was a very funny man. Recently I was with my friend, tom Maloney and his daughter she's four at the time and she spent the whole time I was in the house either on my lap, on my back or wrestling, trying to wrestle me to the ground or chasing me around the house. Lovely kid and I do this thing called pat-a-cake. Pat-a-cake used to do with Charlie. Where they stand in front of me, I take their hands and I clap their hands together pat-a-cake, pat-a-cake. Baker's man, I don't do it hard, but some random time, at least expecting it, I slap themselves in the face with their own hands and it doesn't hurt, I don't do it hard and I go what'd you do that for right? And they're like look at it and go past the cake, past the cake. But why'd you slap yourself in the? And my granddaddy sees me. It was hilarious. I used to laugh my head off every single time.
Speaker 1:So when I used to go to middle school and upper school, I had to walk past my granddad's house. He's actually my great-grandfather. I'd walk past his house every day, twice a day. Once, in a way, they want my way back, and so if it was a hot day it was raining I'd often stop it there for five minutes. If it was really hot, I'd go in and get a drink or whatever. And he'd always go to me all right, son, how you doing? All right, yeah, blah, blah. Oh, you need some. Oh, you shoulda said I'm done, or you know, he's a pound, don't tell grandma, you know. And all that kind of stuff. And then, uh, but whenever I left the, he'd always say to me Wayne, never, ever, ever, look inside this box. And he had a little wooden box by the side of his chair. It was about the same size as the Kennedy mystery box. It might have been a Kennedy, I don't know, actually, but he had this little box there. It looked like one.
Speaker 1:And for years so from the age of when I was about 10 years old yeah, 10 years old up until I was about 15, when he died, every years old, up until I was about 15, when he died, every time I went to his house we'd be talking about whatever, go to the parents, and at the end of it he'd go wait, wait, wait. Never, ever, ever open that box. And when he passed away, my nan called the house and told us and I went on the phone and she said Grandad Crow left you something. So I ran up to the house about a mile away and I got this box. He left me the box and I remember running home with it. I didn't dare open it. I ran home with it. I went up to my bedroom and all I ever wanted to do was open this box.
Speaker 1:Obviously and I know, you know what the punchline's going to be. But I opened up the box and inside was a very old, very tattered, very brown and grey bit of paper and on it it had written Wayne Wayne. I told you, don't look inside the box. I've still got that at home in my mum's house. It's in storage at my mum's house and it's an old gag.
Speaker 1:I didn't see the punchline coming because I was 14, 15. I'd never heard that gag before and I laughed. I remember crying on my bed with laughter, just the stupidity of it. But since that day and this becomes relevant to this since that day I think about that, probably at least once a day or once every couple of days, and for me it's so important because my granddad did a joke on me for years that he knew he would never see the punchline of, he would never get the payoff. You know what I mean. That to me is just the most craziest, funniest, amazing. That's probably the most magical thing I've ever had happen to me.
Speaker 1:My granddad did a joke on me. He knew he would never get the reward, the laugh that he knew he'd never get that and he still did it. And to me that's amazing and my little gesture towards this kind of thing back is to coin under the pillow. I don't get to see the payoff. I don't get to see their shocked face. I don't get to see the amazement the parents do and that's my gift to them. They get to see it. They get to see proper magic done right in front of them and it's beautiful and I don't get to see that. But for me that's really important because of what my granddad. My granddad gave me that gift and now I want to give it to everybody else. Does that make sense?
Speaker 2:Yep, very good choice indeed. And that brings us to your two curveball items. So what's in your book position?
Speaker 1:And it's got to be a magic book and this is going to be so vain and very. It's one of my books and it's Maxim's Primer, which I just think is one of my favourite books I've ever written, and I still read it now. I open it often and it inspires me. I wrote it during lockdown, or most of it during lockdown, and I found it. I wrote it with the intention of inspiring because at that time everything was I'd just seen my diary empty. I'd seen a lot of work disappear. I was very down, very upset about that, and I was trying to stay positive for my daughter, charlie and that's hard when you've got no money coming in and I wanted to inspire and selfishly, I wanted to inspire myself more than anything, more than anybody else. I wrote the book for me and then a few tweaks and that enabled me to put it out afterwards. So, yeah, it would be Maxim's Primer by me. Yeah, just my favourite magic book I think there is. If I had to pick one that wasn't mine, it would be the Encyclopedia of Card Tricks by Walter P Gibson.
Speaker 1:Walter P Gibson's a massive hero of mine. Did you know that he wrote the first superhero comic book? Yeah, alec Baldwin made a movie about it. It's called the Shadow and the Shadow he uses In the movie he's using hypnosis to cloud the minds of his enemies so he appears invisible and he can appear out of the shadows and nobody knows he's there. It's a really good movie. It's a very low-budget movie, but a really good movie. Baldwin does it well but, yeah, he predates Superman and Batman and all the other superheroes the Shadow knows. The Shadow was yeah, he's not the first one of the very first comic book superheroes. So his book. He was also a magician, walter B Gibson, a great card magician and cabaret magician. I want to be Gibson's great card magician and cabaret magician and I've got most of his books upstairs. Yeah, he's awesome. So, yeah, either Maxim's Primer or, if I'm not allowed to have that, the Gibson book.
Speaker 2:You can have Maxim's Primer, if that's your choice, that's your choice.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there we go, boom.
Speaker 2:And that brings us onto your item. So what is the non-magic item that you?
Speaker 1:use for magic. So this is really difficult. Hopefully you'll let me have this actually Only because I use it a lot in all my shows and it's something that all magicians use, but I do manipulations with it and stuff like that. It would be a sharpie. I do a lot of sharpie manipulations I do a lot of. I do the flipstick moves and other bits and bobs and yeah. So, yeah, yeah, my non-magic item to use with magic would have to be would have to be a sharpie.
Speaker 2:Uh, yeah, I love that yep, I don't think it's one that we've had, but it's one that I thought we would have. When we started doing the podcast, I did think a sharpie would would come. It's one of those things where you just do so much with it, you can make it just be, make it appear.
Speaker 1:Stick up your nose, put out your ear, uh, I multiply them, I make them look like I'm pulling more of them out, uh, and obviously then you've got tricks. I mean, there's one very, very good trick that uses a sharpie. Uh, amazing trick. If you've not checked it out, the creator's lovely guy as well. It's called look sharp. Uh, by alakazam magic very, very good trick. I can't recommend that one highly enough. But yeah, look Sharp. For me, look Sharp came from the place of wanting to do more magic with a sharpie and it is an everyday item. You know, it's a lovely pen that magicians started using more and more because spectators it's probably the most famous pen now for spectators. You get a sharpie out. They instantly recognise it for what it is, which makes our job a lot easier. If you go back 20 years, sharpies weren't that well-known. 30 years, sharpies weren't that well-known in the UK. So you get a Sharpie out. People are like, oh, what's that? That's a good mark. Where did you get that from?
Speaker 2:Whereas nowadays everyone and their dog's got one one. So yeah, yeah, sharpie would have to be my non-magic item. Great choice, yep, and a great list, really diverse. It's a big display of the sort of magic that you're into as well. There's some sort of I would say they're probably kids and family routines, really mostly um, but it shows that it all packs flat into a case and you've got a massive show straight away my, my kid show, even though it's aimed at young children, um, I often say people, oh, there's gonna be a lot of parents and I'm like that's fine, they're gonna enjoy it as well.
Speaker 1:My kid show is designed and structured so the adults get as much enjoyment out of it as the kids do. So even though, like man, the moon is obviously a children it looks like a cartoon moon, cartoon clouds. It's obviously a kitchen I did a washing machine, um you know. But then I've also got things like the linking loops. I've got a couple of my own tricks in there that I'm going to be releasing, um, later on the year, next year, uh, kids routines, and they're all in there as well. But even though they're designed for kids, the adults enjoy them as well. And that's really important to me because I don't want them sitting at the back gassing and nattering and making a distraction and equally, I don't want them sitting there bored out of their head because some fat bloke's jumping around in front of them trying to be funny. I want them to enjoy what I'm doing and be part of what I'm doing and go away thinking.
Speaker 1:I want to book him for my son's birthday or my daughter's birthday, because I know my other half or the family members are going to enjoy it as well. It's a show for everybody as opposed to, um, you know, just for the children. It's got to entertain everybody there. So for me that that ticks all those boxes and that's the yeah. So, but yeah, I want to do something that there's some close-ups and stand up some stage. You know some mentalism, um, I think that's all in there. I mean, you do a nice bit of mind reading with the insurance card. You've got nice cabaret items. There's loads. You can do absolutely loads and I think, yeah, for me that's what's important.
Speaker 2:So if people want to find out more about you, Wayne, where can they go? Why?
Speaker 1:would they? They can check me out on Facebook, wayne Goodman, or they can go to my Instagram, which is just wayne goodman magician, I think, or wayne goodman, you'll find me on there. Or they can go to wwwwaynegoodmancouk, and if they want to check out any of my tricks, they can go to wgmagicshopcom. But, to be faira lot of my tricks that I've released are on the alakazam site, um. So if you buy them from alakazam, then you will obviously get points, um, for your alakazam site. So if you buy them from Alakazam, then you will obviously get points for your Alakazam purchases and things. So, yeah, go and check them out and have a look. Lots of great stuff on there.
Speaker 2:And at the very beginning Wayne mentioned his Spongebob routine where he adds them that is going to be an upcoming. Well, it depends when this episode goes out. It will be an upcoming course on unlimited. It's already recorded, um. If you go to the courses section you'll see it's already there, ready to go, um, but the videos are not live yet. So when it's ready to go, members will get a uh email about it going live and the dates will then appear on that course, so you'll see the dates that each lesson is added.
Speaker 1:So yeah, do go check that out, I think we need to uh, to get a date booked as well. Come down and we'll film a second one and we'll move on to a bit more advanced stuff with the sponges and different vanishes and moves and different ways of doing things. Um, yeah, I love them, you know. I mean, I'm playing with one now in my hand, it's it's, you know, there's always a Spongeball at hand. I've got three over there, I've got any other room and it's just.
Speaker 1:You know, I think magicians look down their nose sometimes at Spongeballs because they think of Spongeballs and they think of the magic dong, which I don't use. The dong, I don't really think it's funny. But you know, the actual, normal Spongeballs, I think, are great and they're just a fun little item. And people go, oh, they don't make any sense. Why would you have that? Well, you know we have a lot of things in Magic. But why would you have that? Why would you have a wallet that opens that way? Or you know things like that. We try and make them look as normal as we can, but some of the things are still quite obscure and Spongeballs question them. I've got a sponge ball, why not? You know?
Speaker 2:and to be fair nowadays.
Speaker 1:I think they're more acceptable than anything, because people have all sorts of fidget spinners and fidget toys and stuff and I've I've had people say is it like a stress stress ball? Yeah, that's what it is.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that'll be that's exactly what it was, mate. Thank you for that, yeah stress ball.
Speaker 1:You know Gone, there we go. So yeah, I think it's well worth getting out and having a play with because Spongebob's great, and check out the course which is coming very soon.
Speaker 2:Well, thank you for joining us, wayne, and thank you for giving us your list.
Speaker 1:Thank, you for having me.
Speaker 2:And thank you all for listening. We will hear from you all again next week on another episode of Desert Island Tricks. Bye-bye. On another episode of Desert Island Tricks Bye-bye.
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